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Modification for 600 film on all rigid / non folding SX70's
polaroid love
[info]unclear
PLEASE, BEFORE ATTEMPTING MOD, TEST CAMERA TO SEE IF IT WORKS.

I posted this for all who love polaroid, to personally use and enjoy. don't be a pig and capitalize on my mod
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here is my process for modifying "rigid body / non folding" SX70's to use 600 integral film packs. no filters required and it is not necessary to remove the photocell lens and replace it with clear plastic.  this mod does not disable the light/dark adjustment function on the camera. all rigid body models employ the same housing and primary photocell filter, which was calibrated at the factory. the primary photocell filter is what we will adjust. this mod is very simple and will work on the following models:

USA Models:

Encore.
OneStep. 
OneStep Plus.
Presto.
TheButton
Time Zero Onestep

International Models:

Model 500
Model 1000
Model 1000S
Instant 1000
Instant 1000 Deluxe
Supercolor 1000
Supercolor 1000 Deluxe

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 SPECIAL NOTE  PRONTO Group

USA Models

Pronto, Pronto B, Pronto Extra, Pronto Plus, Pronto RF, Pronto S, Pronto SM, Pronto Sonar Onestep, Time Zero Pronto AF, Super Clincher

International Models

1500, 2000, 3000, Sonar Autofocus 5000, Supercolor Autofocus 3500

Due to the assembly configuration of these models, which require extra steps of further disection, it is not advised to do so until I can provide and addendum.

 Addendum, pronto group > http://unclear.livejournal.com/21321.html?thread=51529#t51529

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as an example, here are two photos, taken before and after the mod. both were under filtered light (overcast) with the photo cell at neutral, no flash.



quite a difference.

the model for this tutorial is the OneStep and is the same for all models previously listed. this mod requires removeing the face of the camera and making an adjustment and replaceing the face. 

tools needed: putty or butter knife, pin or icepick.
time frame: 10 minutes.

throughout the procedure, keep the camera faceing upwards

1- open the film bay door.


2-squeeze the top and bottom of the case as shown to create a gap.


3-insert your flat blade as shown and angle out, to lift the face past its clip. repeat on other side.


4-lift face off. you can now see the tabs that hold the face on. one on each side.


5- You are now going to adjust the primary photocell filter, which is preset at the factory.
take a pointed tool, ie, pin, icepick or a hobbyknife and rotate the gear that can be seen to the right of the photocell eye. rotation is counter clock wise or, since the exposed gear is on the right, rotate it upwards until it stops. it doesn't travel far. this sets the primary filter at its lightest possible setting.


modification complete. its now time to put the face back on the camera. with the camera facing up as shown in pics 2, 3 & 4 just drop the face back on. you may notice that the shutter button is on a floating connection, so it may be necessary to steer the button into the button opening, so the face will travel all the way down and the holding tabs in pic 4 seat properly. the view finder may move slightly as well, if it does steer it into position as the face goes back on. your good to go.



600 FILM use in the SX-70 models listed above. there are four protrusions or tabs on the bottom, back side of 600 film carriers. sand or cut off the two outer tabs, or all four if you like, so the film carrier will insert into the camera.

for those of you that would like to know a bit more about what has been done here......................

with inconsistancies through the years of manufacture, constant improvements in the quality of componants and film as well, there was a window left open to calibrate the final product to compensate for these slight variations. as film or componants changed, for production purposes, there was a need to compensate without changing everything in the camera. this adjustment mechanism included a primary, four section density filter, just in front of the photocell, which was calibrated at the factory to offset any of the slight variations.  the four sections of this filter consisted of 8 degrees of filtration, or, a two stop difference per panel. these models were set approximately half way between the second and third panel, or, the middle. 

since 600 film is approximately four times faster than SX-70 time zero film, we are adjusting the filter to change the way the photocell reads light conditions. from the factory setting of the middle of panel two and three, we are adjusting it to where just half of the first panel (lightest) is covering the photocell, resulting in a difference of four stops. its really quite beautiful in its simplicity. here is a pic to show what you have adjusted.



  

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hey loved the detailed instruction!
thank you!

But i've got a problem.
I did as above but my photos came out blur.
like i got shaky hands.

what model camera? you did rotate the filter counter clockwise (exposed gear up)? If rotation was opposite (exposed gear down) it would set the filter to its darkest setting and result in an extended exposure and without a tripod would result in motion blur.

wow this is awesome!!! thank you!

your very welcome :) ha ha, i always laugh at the camo boxer shot

Edited at 2008-01-10 04:37 pm (UTC)

you've got some good ideas

well thank you. i try, well i don't try, i just can't sit still. if i could only funnel this interest into work, i would be fine

Yes!

(Anonymous)

2008-03-13 10:51 pm (UTC)

I just did this in my One Step. Works pretty fine =D

Thanks!

http://flickr.com/photos/ikuanna_gallery/

congratulations. its so simple. there is also a way to pull the little spring things and bend the ends so they don't interfere with the tabs on the film pack. enjoy

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Done!

(Anonymous)

2008-03-21 03:29 am (UTC)

I modified my rigid sx70 1000 two days ago and I want to thank you for this little modification tutorial. Camera works wonderfully!

your very welcome,that is good news. pass it on. can i ask your username on flickr to look out for your results? joe

flickr name

(Anonymous)

2008-03-22 12:13 am (UTC)

Hi joe, yep no problem. My username is noobits and I'm based in Australia =)

thanks, i'll check you out. joe

I found this through a google search, thank you so much! I'm trying this out momentarily. I'll definitely post back with my results :D

your welcome. thanks for letting me know and will look forward to your results. good luck. joe

Thanks for this , I now try with my camera one step , the button , sonar onestep

(Anonymous)

2008-03-26 08:43 am (UTC)

Thanks for a technic . This is very helpful .

Re: Thanks for this , I now try with my camera one step , the button , sonar onestep

[info]unclear

2008-03-26 11:58 am (UTC)

cool. you will be happy with the results. good luck. joe

Thanks again

(Anonymous)

2008-03-29 11:31 am (UTC)

Thanks for this , I now try with my camera one step , the button , sonar onestep
Thanks for a technic . This is very helpful .

this is me , who poat this massage.
just want to shar more .(sorry for my english - it is not my mother language)

for Sonar onestep open in the top part first . that had words auto and manual . put it out then to open the front the lock is in the buttom on a part that it is open film pack and the last lock it is in the top of camera (same place that you open auto manual) .
Now you can open it . the adjust is little hide if you model had red light warning it is under it.

Hope this help.

thank you. very good addition to data for sonar onestep users

Found myself a polaroid 1000 on a fleamarket today and tried your mod; works like a charm! Thank you!

you are very welcome. enjoy

i have a sonar onestep that i'd like to modify, but i can't find the gear that you move. any suggestions? i read the thing above, but i still can't figure it out.



I apologize, i should have made note that on this particular model, it is hard to find. you can still get at it though, without any further disassembly. a magnifying glass and strong light or flashlight will help. On this model the gears are finer and harder to see. it is obscured, so you will only see a small portion of it. you will need an ice pick or pin to adjust it.

1-facing the camera, you will be looking to the right of the photocell eye, (light/dark adjuster). the gear is directly behind, at the same height, off to the right.

2-rotate the camera to the left, so you are peeking in at an angle, between the case and the camera components, just under the viewfinder.

3- it sits back approximately 1/4" to 3/8" and the same distance down from the viewfinder. (the viewfinder does slide out for a better view, just make note of the viewfinders orientation, as it fits in one way only).

3-if all else fails and you can't see it, take your pointy tool and probe in that area, you will be able to determine what is stationary and what moves. once located, move it counter clockwise, or upward, until it stops. (when probeing, use upward movements, so as not to accidently move it down and out of reach).

4-done.

let me know how you make out and don't hesitate if you need any more help. good luck, joe

Edited at 2008-04-16 10:41 pm (UTC)

i do actually have another question though. should i adjust my light/dark meter any?

that is good to hear. your light/dark adjustment will work normally and may have to be adjusted to suite conditions as in any shooting situation

Thanks for the mod, I did it to my Polaroid 1000 Model, but the picture came out really over exposed. Here's the picture

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/harro11/IMG-1.jpg

Can you help?

did you adjust the light/dark feature to compensate for bright sun? tell me what the setting was at in this pic as to better analyze the results. joe

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Thanks so much - just wanted to let you know this worked quickly and easily and my new/old Model 1000

Just upset the light is fading here now and I can't test it out more!

your very welcome and good to hear. enjoy the mod. joe :)

Model 2000S

(Anonymous)

2008-06-06 02:13 pm (UTC)

Hey, will this mod work on a polaroid 2000S camera?

Thanks!

i'm going to say yes and no, as the 2000 is similar to the pronto. the pronto, so far, is the only one that requires taking the entire system out of the camera body to access the filter. i did it on a pronto and after all the work, i was not happy with the results. for some reason the results are not as striking as in other models. the difference is minimal. could have been just the camera i had, or it requires an electrical mod to the circuit board as well.

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thank you soooo much for this. I love my time-zero onestep and haven't taken any pictures with it since they discontinued the film, but now I'm excited to try out some of my 600 film in it and see how it goes.

well good luck with it and let me know how you make out. joe

onestep supercolor

(Anonymous)

2008-06-11 02:52 am (UTC)

Hello from another australian user :)

I tried this mod on a 'Supercolor Onestep' - and it worked! Thanks so much. So happy i didnt have to buy any filters or anything.

I hope to get a polaroid 1000 from ebay and mod it the same way - it looks almost identical to the one shown in your pictures, so hopefully its exactly the same to modify.

I tried a Polaroid 2000 - but the front casing doesnt come off because of the front adjustable lense.

I saw in previous comments that you mention an 2000S - but this just said 2000 - so I'd be careful - as the housing doesnt seem to come apart because of the front lense, meaning you cant get to the gear that needs to be adjusted.

Apart from that though - thanks again, I've successfully done the mod to a 500 model too - but havent tested it out yet though with film.

Thanks again!

Re: onestep supercolor

[info]unclear

2008-06-11 12:51 pm (UTC)

it all depends on your degree of ability with the 2000. the lens will come off. there are two holes in the lens ring to insert a small pin or rod to disengage the keepers. make note of the lens ring position for reassembly.

the easiest way is to just slide the works right out of the case. the retainers are on the bottom front where the film door hinges. at the same time you must be alert to relevant part placement as it comes apart, or it won't go back together. when its part way out, the film bay door latch comes out. that is the same point where it must be re-inserted on assembly. at the same time you must take note of the beauty ring that goes around the flash attachment jack. at the point that this item comes off is the same time it must be reinstalled on assembly. it sounds more daunting than it really is, but for all the work, the final results just don't seem worth it on this model. for some reason, the pronto, and all models built from this format, including international models were different from other sx-70 models.

i'm pleased that you can enjoy the results on what you have modified to date. enjoy, joe

polaroid 1500

(Anonymous)

2008-06-18 01:23 pm (UTC)

Hi, can it be done with no problems on the Polaroid 1500?

Thanks!

no, not on the 1500

i did this on my onestep and my polaroid came out completley gray, but a tiny, tiny hint of the image. any ideas?

to help me analyze.......
1-this is a camera you had used, a known working model?
2-what were the light conditions when pic was taken?
3-did you try adjusting the light/dark dial? (without blowing too many pics)
let me know, joe

to make the film fit

(Anonymous)

2008-07-05 05:38 am (UTC)

you mentioned there was a way to bend the springs .. or something... so that 600 film will slide right in. Can you give a more detailed explanation of that? I would like to not have to bother with sanding off the tabs on the film cartridge everytime.
thanks for your help! excellent tutorial.
my sx-70 is on its way from ebay now, I cant wait to try it out.
save polaroid!

Re: to make the film fit

[info]unclear

2008-07-05 02:34 pm (UTC)

there is a tool that mechanics use, its to compress C shaped spring clips. like a pair of pliers with two little tips on the end. look into the film bay and you will see the spring mount, with two holes at the base, if you can squeeze them together, the spring slides out.

an easier method is to get a pair of needle nosed pliers and reach in and just crush/compress the tab on the end of the spring. it is bent slightly forward and will fold right down. good luck, joe

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the gear

(Anonymous)

2008-07-16 11:11 am (UTC)

Hi,
I don't understand very well English,
so I wanted to know : do the teeth
have to be turned down?
If I turn it down, I can see
something like 4 teeth left.
Is this OK?
Thank you.

Gaëlle

hi. wrong way. gear goes up. you will see all teeth. good luck. joe

hey really thanks for the unbelievably detailed description!
I've already used it on several Supercolors and they all work pretty neat. I recently acquired a Polaroid 1500 model, similar looking to the 1000 (or Supercolor), beige colour, green button and focusing with focus scale on lens ring. I've been trying to open it up to perform the same operation, but the damn thing persists on denying. I suspect it might be because of the focus ring on the lens, it might clap on to more points than the 1000. I desperately want to bring her back to life... any recommendations ?

thanx !

the focus rings have little access holes to release the clips. stick in a paper clip or pointy object to release. good luck. joe

i just got a pronto!b yesterday and i had seen this before, but you mention that there are some differences between this modification and what you would have to do for the pronto!b model. could you just briefly explain what some of those differences are? i'm just curious, thank you :]

sorry for the delay. the pronto b is a little more complicated as the camera carriage must be removed from the case. its not too difficult, its just a matter of systematical disection and replacement in the exact order in which it came apart. mainly the film door latch. it will only come out of its channel at a determined point of extraction of the carriage and will only install at that same point of assembly. a few extra steps for this model, but again, for some reason, the results are not dramatic as in the onesteps. i really don't think its worth it. joe

can you make adjustments if film is loaded?

[info]armellejewelry.blogspot.com

2008-07-30 11:25 pm (UTC)

ok, so of course i found this tutorial after i figured out to load my one step camera. can i make the adjustment with film in there or will it ruin my film?

Re: can you make adjustments if film is loaded?

[info]unclear

2008-07-31 12:04 am (UTC)

theoretically, yes. you may run the risk of loseing one shot, maybe not. never did it with film in it, but can't see why it wouldn't work.

i always pull the film for anywork on the camera or just to switch film from camera to camera.

pulling the film is easy if you still have the darkslide that gets ejected first. if you don't have that, you will sacrifice one print.

let me know if your interested in removing film. joe

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